Friday, December 6, 2013

Waving the Flag -- Cognitive Dissonance

You can't make this up.
Faulkner said it best...
The past is never dead. It's not even past. 

I cannot recall a time that someone's death triggered such an outpouring of conflicted responses. The contrast of extremes is shocking. Many people hated the Kennedy family generally and JFK specifically, but when he was killed most of that hate faded, at least during the days and weeks that followed. I know first hand that when King was killed many Southerners were openly pleased, but that attitude of "good riddance" pales to the outpouring of hate and resentment seen here.

It took some time to curate these comments fromTed Cruze's Facebook page. But they are only a sample of what appears to be an avalanche of opinion similar, even more harsh, than what I have collected here. In fact I omitted a couple of links to racist diatribes at You Tube and other places.

The reader will see a few disagreements and reprimands sprinkled through this collection, but not many. The main take-away, it seems to me, is that Senator Cruz has either deliberately or unwittingly attracted a lot of unrepentant racists unable to let go of the past. As a citizen I am embarrassed and disappointed by these comments

Contrast these reactions with this memory, one among many published by the NY Times.

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Senator Ted Cruz 
504,377 like this  7 hours ago ·
Nelson Mandela will live in history as an inspiration for defenders of liberty around the globe. He stood firm for decades on the principle that until all South Africans enjoyed equal liberties he would not leave prison himself, declaring in his autobiography, 'Freedom is indivisible; the chains on any one of my people were the chains on all of them, the chains on all of my people were the chains on me.' Because of his epic fight against injustice, an entire nation is now free. 
We mourn his loss and offer our condolences to his family and the people of South Africa.
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Wanda W. Rossman Sen Cruz, you need to study your history. He was a glorified terrorist!

Jane Consolo These are exactly the comments I would expect from supporters of Ted Cruz. Dimwit, hateful, ignorant comments.

Jacquie Lempka Nelson Mandela was the head of UmKhonto we Sizwe, (MK), the terrorist wing of the ANC and South African Communist Party. He had pleaded guilty to 156 acts of public violence including mobilizing terrorist bombing campaigns, which planted bombs in public places, including the Johannesburg railway station. Many innocent people, including women and children, were killed.
Source: The State v. Nelson Mandela et al, Supreme Court of South Africa, Transvaal Provincial Division, 1963-1964, Indictment.


Selma Guerra lol your constituents are borderline retarded or full blown mentally ill.

Antonio Cantu These are your people, Cruz. These hate-filled members of the fringe of society now cannibalizing you, their leader, for praising a great man. These are your people -- your intolerant, bigoted, anachronistic people you whipped into a frenzy in securing their support. The irony here is delicious. Congratulations on such a classy constituency. MUAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Elaine Dennis Adkison You built this hate, Teddy boy!

Elena Zajechowski Sen Cruz, your fan base needs to grow up and get educated. Sorry you haters, this godly man was admired, respected by mat of the world, including your very own Republican George Bush Sr. Are you telling me that daddy Bush liked murderers. Face it, you are racists to the very core.

Eric Wick Nelson Mandela was a socialist terrorizer of white Africans, hated Capitalism and didn't think commoners had a right to private property, and thought government should control and distribute wealth...

Drew Nilsen Apparently, Ted Cruz's base is composed of people whose parents are siblings. Good grief!

Brice Key He was a convicted terrorist and a leader in the Communist Party. . .good grief Ted!!!!!

Bryan Christian Disappointing, Mr. Cruz.

Steve Reynolds Change your name forthwith. You ain't no Christian.

Rodney Langley He was a mass murdering communist. How is that a "defender of liberty"?

Gale Rogers Hatley You guys have some interesting blinders on. By your standards our founding fathers were also terrorist. Fighting for freedom is often ugly work. I would love to see you rednecks try to fight from where he started without getting your hands dirty. He changed an entire country and gave the world hope that you can indeed change things no matter how hopeless it seems.

Sebastian Ibron Mr. Cruz, not exactly. Nelson Mandela was a communist who murdered many people. He caused that capital of South Africa become a place where rate of rape was in first ten at whole world. I won't cry, because in history were many people who were real advocates of freedom.

Sebastian Ibron Do you still think he was advocate of freedom?
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JimnAmber Brouillard South Africa is anything but together. It used to be the wealthiest African nation and has fallen into corruption, poverty, and crime.

Dean Isaacson Ted - I disagree - Nelson Mandella destroyed a prosperous nation. Certainly, you may honor him for ridding the nation of apartheid, though you cannot honor the killings and intimidations he used to accomplish this. But he destroyed the economy and he impoverished those he "set free."

Jennifer Curl Hathaway Rose It is hard to admire somebody who turned to advocating violence (with the ANC bombings) when they didn't get what they wanted .

Bill Mullen This is the reason you sir, will never be elected President. Your base is made up of a bunch of racist, uninformed idiots who know nothing about basic history. Reading these comments make me shocked at how many people in this country are so hateful and just outright stupid

Korey Cocking I'm confused. Why are we commemorating and mourning a hateful murderer?!

Occupy Posters I'm confused, too. Aren't 2nd Amendment nutcases constantly braying that they will need their guns in case of a government tyrannically oppressing its citizens? Oh, snap! - that's what was going on in South Africa! Or is that 2nd Amendment line something you only pull out when it might seem to conveniently support your gun obsession or, gulp, white supremacy?

Tony Stonewall Bowery A War criminal

Eric Douglas Breeding Wow so ashamed to live freely with all you bigots

Terry Schoellkopf God help the White South Africans . It is a disgrace that our government refuses to let them come to the US as political refugees even though they are being slaughtered with impunity. Now that Mandela is dead the streets will be filled with their blood and barely a peep will be heard from our media.

Terry Allen Cruz, what about his days with the communist, killing innocent people? Are we supposed to just forget that? Come on Senator tell us what to do.

Keith Sheeks He was a communist and a terrorist. Amazing how people are so blind and swallow everything the media feeds them about what a great man he was. Total BS

Ray Zehrung South Africa has an 80% unemployment rate among the youth. The ANC was founded upon communist ideals and many people have been stripped of their property by the new ANC, Nelson Mandela inspired government.

Whites are increasingly at risk of random violence. Gun shots can be heard throughout the capital and any white South African who can leave, has left.

Apartheid was a horrible practice, but the current situation is not any better. Rather than bringing people together, Mandela set them apart.

Charles Peters so remind me why you guys are allowed to vote, own guns and have internet access?

Patrick Skeen Mr Cruz .... You need to go to South Africa and see the fruits of Mandela's work.

Barbara Reilly-miller Mandela aligned himself with Castro and other Marxists and Communists. I do not mourn his loss. I say good riddance. I'm disappointed in your expression of admiration for this Marxist, Senator Cruz.

Lori Molski Going through the comments posted and glad to see my fellow patriots are informed about this man.

Aidan Ankarberg I disagree Mr. Senator. Do not fall victim to the media's lies. The man was a Communist, a terrorist and a racist.

Martha Dunkelberger All this paranoia, hate and misinformation, Mr. Cruz...YOU and the RNC built that.

Laurie Werneburg Give me a break! Mandela was a communist and a terrorist. He stood against apartheid, not because it was wrong, but because he is a racist and cared only for his own color. Since apartheid ended, whites in Africa have been brutally butchered, but you won't hear a peep about that in the news or Mandela.

James Nelson He was a murderous communist serving in prison for thousands of white murders. Don't whitewash the true history of this murdering villain. Instead of buying into the media glorification, read the violent history of South Africa

Matthew Snell Not much that I've disagreed with you recently, but this....

Ernesto Del Toro same here. he's just going along with the popular narrative. I can't wait to see what he says when Fidel Castro passes away.

Ramon Manuel Ramos Wow how you can celebrate the life of an ardent supporter of Cuba's Castro government is beyond me.

Seth Claxton Ted, I supported you vehemently but you have jumped in the bandwagon here. Do you support communist terrorism?

Joseph Larson Ted you know I have supported you in the past however I think you have been drinking the Kool Aid on Mandela, try reading this:
As South Africa’s 95-year-old Nelson Mandela lies in the hospital, the worldwide media portrays him as a larger-than-life heroic figure and the liberator of his people. But is that truth or fiction? And how will honest historians judge him?
The official story goes something like this: Nelson Rolihlahla Mandela was born in 1918 into the Thembu tribe’s royal family. He studied law at two prestigious universities and became involved in “anti-colonial politics,” joining the African National Congress (ANC). He was committed to non-violent protest in gaining sovereignty for blacks. In 1962 he was arrested and convicted of sabotage and conspiracy to overthrow the government and was sentenced to life in prison.
An international campaign lobbied for his release, which was granted in 1990, and he was hailed as martyr of white racism by the international media. This popularity propelled him to be elected president of South Africa in 1994, where he continued with his struggle to “end ethnic tensions and bring about racial equality.” Over the years, Mandela has received over 250 awards, including the 1993 Nobel Peace Prize, the U.S. Presidential Medal of Freedom and the Soviet Order of Lenin.
That’s the official story. His critics, however, have a different opinion.
Hard Assets Alliance
They point to the fact that Mandela was not imprisoned for opposing apartheid, or segregation, in Africa, but for being a communist terrorist murderer-bomber in service to the Soviet Union.
The ANC’s guerrilla force, known as uMkhonto we Sizwe—MK, or “Spear of the Nation”—was founded in 1961 by Mandela and his advisor, the Lithuanian-born communist Jew Joe Slovo, born Yossel Mashel Slovo, who was officially named secretary general of the South African Communist Party in 1986.
Slovo had been the planner of many of the ANC terrorist attacks, including the January 8, 1982 attack on the Koeberg nuclear power plant near Cape Town, the Church Street bombing on May 20, 1983, which killed 19 people, and the June 14, 1986 car-bombing of Magoo’s Bar in Durban, in which three people were killed and 73 injured.
In 1962, Mandela was arrested along with 19 others, half of whom were White communist Jews, in a police raid of ANC headquarters at a farm owned by Andrew Goldreich, also a communist Jew, at Rivonia, a Johannesburg suburb.
In the Rivonia Trial, which took place between 1963 and 1964, the defendants were tried for 221 acts of sabotage designed to overthrow the government and conspiring to aid foreign military units, when they invaded SA to further the objects of communism.
The prosecutor, Percy Yutar said at the trial that “production requirements for munitions were sufficient to blow up a city the size of Johannesburg.”
Escaping the death sentence, Mandela was given life in prison.
By 1990, the communists behind Mandela had gained enough power to force his release. Apartheid was abolished in 1992 and the ANC was put into power in 1994 with Mandela as president. Slovo became his secretary of housing.
Shortly thereafter, Mandela and Slovo, along with a group of ANC leaders, were filmed chanting a pledge to kill all whites in South Africa.
Current South African President Jacob Zuma, also of the ANC, was also filmed as late as January 2012 singing a song called “Kill the Boer” in front of a crowd of thousands of blacks while they cheered and danced. The song advocates the murder of the descendents of the original white settlers of South Africa, with lyrics encouraging blacks to gun down the farmers with machine guns.
Mandela’s ex-wife Winnie, also a longtime ANC activist, prefers a method called “necklacing,” where a gasoline-filled tire is placed around the neck of a victim and set ablaze. “With our boxes of matches and our necklaces we shall liberate this country,” she is infamous for saying.
(Mandela was in solitary confinement at the time of the necklacing torture-murders. An estimated 3,000 victims died by necklacing.)
Since 1994, 68,000 whites have been brutally tortured and murdered by blacks in South Africa, in ways too gruesome to describe, including almost 4,000 Boers whose farms were confiscated by savage murderers, a combined area of over 25,000 square miles.
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Contrary to popular belief, the vast majority of blacks in South Africa aren’t natives, but came by the millions from neighboring countries only after the white Boers created a country with a thriving economy, education opportunities and medical benefits.
Under white rule, blacks in South Africa enjoyed better living conditions than any other African country, where blacks kill each other in tribal warfare.
In 1994, the same year Mandela took power, the Hutu tribe killed 800,000 Tutsis in Rwanda. Similar tribal genocides have taken place in Congo, Somalia, Ethiopia, Chad, Mali, Zimbabwe, Angola and many more African countries. Tribal savagery and genocide has always been a way of life for Africans.
Since Mandela took over, South Africa has become a Third World country. It went from being the safest country in Africa, to being the rape and murder capital of the world. In Johannesburg, 5,000 people are murdered every year. Unemployment went from 5% in 1994 to 50% today.
South Africa also has the largest number of people infected with HIV/AIDS in the world. In 2007, over 18% of adults, or 5,700,000 people had AIDS. In 2010, an estimated 280,000 died of AIDS.
Looking beyond the media myth of a “demigod Mandela” as he faces his twilight, one can only say, “good riddance.”
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Larry Leffew Yep, he was a good communist

Rusch Walters Are you serious? Nelson Mandela was a communist and mass murderer!

Steven Chang Sen. Cruz... it's better for you to say nothing about Mandela's death than to praise him. I had such such high hopes for you sir, and now that has diminished significantly.

Maria Elena Sarduy Seriously Mr. Cruz?!? You must have posted only because Mandela was black. He was as communist as they come and a buddy of Fidel Castro (aren't your parents political refugees FROM Cuba)????

Edz Marichelle He was a commie terrorist Mr. Cruz

Alan D Campbell Was he not a communist?

Krysynda Marie Day Marxists at minimum .....regardless, he was a terrorist that killed MANY men, women and children.

Casey Kaplan Amazing FB activity.

Dominic A. De Falco Hey Senator Ted Cruz, You did not say anything about the fact that Mandela was a communist. Do you now support and promote communism? You did not say anything about the fact Mandela committed 156 acts of public violence including the Johannesburg railway station bombing. No mention of the fact that he was also a member of the South African Communist Party and a co-founder of Umkhonto we Sizwe, a guerrilla warfare group declared a terrorist organization by the United States in the 1960s. Guess communism is OK with you?

Gary Moore Not without blood on his hands.

Bjorn Johnson It is not often that I agree with Ted Cruz, but thank you Senator for your very respectful remarks. Don't let the people attacking you over this get to you, you know that Mandela was on the right side of history.

Drew Collins I hope that he found God's mercy, Senator -- that's my only hope as well, but please spare the portrayal of him as a defender of liberty and man of peace.

Colby Stevens Marxist murdering scum....I'm done wasting my time thinking about this

Vic Yepello What a bunch of sick f#%s SOME of you are. You wouldn't know a hero if you saw one. Karma assholes. It comes around.

Deb Shaffer Vic, next week these same idiots will be claiming Mandela was a Republican.

Luke Locke @Deb, how's life in irrationalville?

Ray Lillibridge Wow. Was there a Fox News special on talking points, for white conservatives, regarding Mandela? Fighting for civil rights is typically not a pretty sight.

Shari Jolly Fleming "Steal Palestinian land"? Are you serious?? YOU need to do your research!

Nancy McCarthy Baker Oh Lord, protect me from the likes of these mean ignorant a-holes. In Jesus' name I pray, in faith of deliverance. Amen.

BetheChange Fuentez Damn Ted, good job on this. I guess you aren't completely worthless

Jason Richard Wilbur Mandela was a communist/terrorist. The information is readily available and just ask any South African with common sense.

Ed Harrison Sorry Ted, all BS. He was a communists who killed thousands. SA is experiencing white genocide now!

Linda McFarland he was a Marxist who advocated white genocide ...

Omar Ghaffar LOL. L.O.L!!!!!!!!!!!! You and him have next to zero in common. My sides hurt from laughing. This was a good joke Ted! You are a superstar lawyer (best of the best) but would make a good stand up comedian too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ruthann Miller We have lost a great man today, a true leader. May he rest in peace, We all owe him a big thank you.

Lana Rayshel B-c A man who kept a BEAUTIFUL spirit, in spite of horrendous suffering. That makes him a man above men. Condolences to his peaceful attitude during a time when he could have used power for other ideas. For those of us who grew up watching him imprisoned and then be free...to seeing him still speak and act with graciousness...he will be remembered for all the good he embodied.

Jon Ives Wow. You Cruz people are far more disgusting than I ever would have guessed.

Paula Simpson Sen. Cruz...praising communist terrorist is not the best way to please your base. You need to read up on the history of this individual.

Jamey M. Johnson HE WAS A MURDERER AND A COMMUNIST

Daniel Childress why hes all three as a matter of fact!

Patrick Norwine Mandela and his wife were evil incarnate plain and simple glad he's gone pos

Cody Moore At Ruth Satchfield, how can you compare men of honor and integrity to a man who openly tortured and murdered his opponents?

Karen Wilkin Powers Stop praising Mandela: : he was a committed pro-abort and had strong ties to the communist party. http://spuc-director.blogspot.com/.../south-africas...

Tboy Derouen Say what Ted!

Anniliese Rory he was a marxist

Peter Fleming Mr. Cruz, wasn't he a commited Communist and terrorist with innocent blood on his hands?

Geri Elkins-Alexander We have, with your post, just defined irony.

Carlsen Reed Cruz supporters are sofa king weed tart, Ed.

Elizabeth Benghazi Campbell I am astounded to see such a tribute from you! This man murdered God-only-knows-how-many innocent people and brought the plague of abortion to his country!

Chuck Brothers Watch it Senator. Mandela was a communist revolutionary and terrorist with blood on his hands.

James L Habermehl Lamest Sen. Cruz FB post... ever!!!

Nicholas D. Riggs You're all denouncing Mandela but you all still blindly support Israel, a racist regime that institutes apartheid like policies against Palestinians. A regime that literally made it equivalent to treason for a Jew to date an Arab. A regime that continues to steal and settle Palestinian land. Maybe you all need to do your research.

Dee Wilkerson Nelson Mandela was a true statesman with an immense capacity for compassion and forgiveness. May God Bless his soul.

Laura Stromberg Hoke Bonnie, UGH. Gross.

Kevin Duggan He was a socialist democrat who was against capatilism n private ownership of property.

Ernesto Del Toro Ted, how many Cubans have been imprisoned for the same amount of years or more in Cuba just because they went against the Castro's regime.? Do you know any of their names. Maybe your dad knows, ask him and let us know.

Tempeste Wallace Lol @ these comments. One white man's terrorist is another black man's freedom fighter.

Kurt Lillo He was a communist racist terrorist.

Jamey M. Johnson You're mourning the death of a murdering communist? WHY?

Brad Griffith The British thought the founding fathers were terrorists...

T.j. Hill HE WAS A COMMUNIST!!!!!!!!

Bill Jones He was a communist with ties to terrorists. That's not liberty senator, it's tyranny.

Willie Vieslau Senator, if I were you I would take this post down and brush up a little bit on history !!!!!!

John Carbone Wrong, he did what every communist does destroys the country and spread death and misery

Chris Tarry Teds finally wrong on something! Mandela was a Marxist terrorist much like the Taliban. Get educated on this one Ted! Don't accept the revision of history by the leftist media. He has left South Africa a crumbling Marxist state.

Hank Wilson We part company on this one Ted. I certainly do not mourn his loss !

Seliqua Bodina you are joining in the marxist love fest? I'm very shocked and disappointed.. you of all people!

Bryan Parker I think Nelson Mandela did good but I wouldn't go so far as to say he helped spread liberty for everyone.

Glen Sharp Gee, i wonder why george gave Mr. Mandela the presidential medal of freedom? Oh, by the way, a black man is still president. Suck on that racist morons.

Sheri Lapin What is wrong with you people????? I do get that you are Ted Cruz supporters, which automatically means you suck eggs. Reading the comments here makes me feel so depressed. You are not even a part of humanity, you make me feel so very ashamed.

Sara H VG congrats Ted on your stormfront constituency out in top form tonight

Judah's Daughter Mandela was a socialist - no wonder Obama will attend his funeral, but missed the Gettysburg event.

Frank DeWitt He was a communist and terrorist jailed for it a bomber of government targets and killed who knows how many jailed for 27 years then emerged some kind of Fedel Castro hero type elected to president of South Africa. Don't spread your lies !

Ralph Janisch He was a frigging communist.

Jimmy Pope why would you honor a socialist who promoted the killing of white people in S.A. read about the Boer farmers.

Jimmy Pope well sir, go to a socialist country if not already in one. So you are saying murder is ok if you kill a white? Maybe a black will hunt you down and show you the light!

Lori Green Lets put obuma in Prison for his crimes and see if he comes out any different!!

Linda McFarland cmon Ted!!! get real!

Jose Gonzalez C'mon Ted, get your facts right. This guy was a communist and a terrorist and he didn't fight for "justice"...and by the way, the ones who really demolish apartheid in SouthAfrica were P.W. Botha, its government, religious, political and social organizations and also Mandela.

Bob Krouse Ted you are making me DOUBT YOU!

William E. Hummer this is not truth ... we want only truth to prevail ... please stop telling us lies

Davidius Maximus   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKiePbTcAfY

Jason Meader South Africa is now one of the most dangerous places on earth. Much like how Obama left Chicago

Jason Meader Anyone seems like a nice guy when they're in their 90's. He's a communist plain and simple. If you don't know what that encompasses then it's your loss

Chris Harrison Mandela and others founded the group " Umkhonto we Sizwe " (abbreviated as MK, translated as "Spear of the Nation"). It was the armed wing of the African National Congress (ANC), which fought against the South African government. MK launched its first guerrilla attacks against government installations on 16 December 1961. It was subsequently classified as a terrorist organisation by the South African government and the United States.
He and his followers created the style of execution called " Necklacing " ... which is the practice of summary execution and torture carried out by forcing a rubber tire, filled with petrol, around a victim's chest and arms, and setting it on fire. The victim may take up to 20 minutes to die, suffering severe burns in the process.
He was an avowed Socialist ...
an ex terrorist
supported by Castro, and the USSR
and I find it completely insulting ...
that this President and State Department ...
who refused to travel to represent American when Margaret Thatcher died ... are planning " State visits " to be there for Mandela's funeral.

Ernesto Del Toro Ted Cruz, I'm a supporter of your agenda, however, YOU'RE ON THE WRONG SIDE OF HISTORY ON THIS ONE. I hope one of your page admins wrote this nonsense and you were not consulted on this, but if you approved this message, you are clueless as to whom Mandela was. Lets just say, HE WAS A FRIEND OF FIDEL CASTRO, ENOUGH SAID. WAKE UP TED.

Ernesto Del Toro Ted, remember Ernesto Che Guevara.??? he was Mandela decades ago.

Joe Dark He and his wife and their henchmen hung tires full of gasoline around the necks of their opponents and lit them on fire.
What's so heroic about that?
If your endorsement is from the would's greatest murderer in the western hemisphere what does that say about you?

Joe Light what you crackers need is a chill pill.

Judith Hughes I thought Nelson Mandela was a communist and that he and Winnie were aligned with terrorists

Paul Eddington I know that you have to drink the kook aid. But the reality is a first world nation is now a third world hellhole

Frank DeLoach Ted before you praise Mandela you need to find out the truth about him. He was not the man that the media wants you to think he was.

Steve Schaper He lives in memory as a butcher of Zulu children, and even of his own !Xhosa tribesmen who opposed him.

Toni Elich shame on you for the politically correct spiel Ted Cruz.. he was a terrorist

Carol Little White Extermination In South Africa A YEAR FROM HELL:
From 1 May 2012 - 30 April 2013
365 Days, 304 Attacks, 463 Victims, 169 Murdered, 21 Raped.

Keith Crowther You screwed up here Ted.

Al Gussler Guess a little White genocide means nothing to you Cruz. My bad, I thought you were different, you are a sell out just like the rest of them.

Shelia Irvin Jones Mr. Ted Cruz, my understanding of history & Mandela is he was a Marxist,a Tyrant and a racist. When he says "my people" he is not referring to everyone. I think he was more of a thug than hero. I have a hard time seeing him any other way. Your apparent support of him is very disturbing to me.

Kevin Whitbeck I don't agree with his politics. But he was a brave man who suffered mightily for his people. As we lose rights every day should we go his route or go the way of our Founding Fathers?

Krysynda Marie Day Nelson Mandela was the head of UmKhonto we Sizwe, (MK), the terrorist wing of the ANC and South African Communist Party. At his trial, he had pleaded guilty to 156 acts of public violence including mobilising terrorist bombing campaigns, which planted bombs in public places, including the Johannesburg railway station. Many innocent people, including women and children, were killed by Nelson Mandela’s MK terrorists. Here are some highlights
-Church Street West, Pretoria, on the 20 May 1983
-Amanzimtoti Shopping complex KZN, 23 December 1985
-Krugersdorp Magistrate’s Court, 17 March 1988
-Durban Pick ‘n Pay shopping complex, 1 September 1986
-Pretoria Sterland movie complex 16 April 1988 – limpet mine killed ANC terrorist M O Maponya instead
-Johannesburg Magistrate’s Court, 20 May 1987
-Roodepoort Standard Bank 3 June, 1988

Tellingly, not only did Mandela refuse to renounce violence, Amnesty refused to take his case stating “[the] movement recorded that it could not give the name of ‘Prisoner of Conscience’ to anyone associated with violence, even though as in ‘conventional warfare’ a degree of restraint may be exercised.”

Tommy Turner Not good Ted

Steve DeRoos What a disappointing post. Mr. Cruz mendela was a terrorist. That's all. Nothing to see here

Douglas G Tigtig The Blacks in America do not know that they are still in bondage under the Democrats,, forever if they continue to support them.

Nicholas Fiels Huh? Who wrote this?

Ruth Ann Satchfield Mandela is a terrorist in the same vein as George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, Paul Revere, and many of our ancestors. Had they lost the revolution, they would have gone down in history as criminals. The colonists did not have near the horrible life the blacks did in South Africa. The demonstrations were peaceful at first, until the white police chose to shoot and kill one hundred sixty people, many were women and children. This decision to move to violence was made by the whites, but then Mandela's group fought back. You should study history, instead of making false conclusions. No doubt you are not fit to wash the feet of any of these great men who led their countries to a better life. None of them were perfect, and all did things in the war for freedom they would prefer not to do, but any of you who think you are good enough to criticize this great man, are fools!

Sylvia Grisham Mandela's strength and courage led De Clerk to free the slaves of South Africa and eventually put an end to colonialism.

Odalys Martinez Matus As far as I'm concerned, any day with one less communist is a good day!!!!!

Sara H VG remember everyone, freedom is only worth fighting for if you're white

Katy Richard You people are nuts.

Sara Franklin Did someone hack your page, or have you just finally lost it from the pressure? I can't believe you would show support of him!!! http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1255245/posts
I expected so much more from you. How disappointing!

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